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I like voting myself up, and it keeps 2weak from having -5 every time.

I still think there should be some sort of limit on the amount of down/up ratings you can do, or make them correlate somehow.

I see threads all the time where nearly every single person in there has -1 and some people definetly don't deserve it. It's the same person/people just acting immature and down ranking everything.

Or maybe gears could show who liked and disliked the post? Kinda like on Facebook? That way people might be less likely to act out if they know they aren't voting anonymously.

on 27/2/11Quote by Deathleech

I still think there should be some sort of limit on the amount of down/up ratings you can do, or make them correlate somehow.

I see threads all the time where nearly every single person in there has -1 and some people definetly don't deserve it. It's the same person/people just acting immature and down ranking everything.

Or maybe gears could show who liked and disliked the post? Kinda like on Facebook? That way people might be less likely to act out if they know they aren't voting anonymously.

would be nice if this was possible. Would you put in the work for it Gears?

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on 27/2/11Quote by Infested-Trib

Meh, if people feel that they need to +1 themselves then by all means let them. It's an ego boost I guess. There is no benefit to getting +1s. But there is a downside to getting too many -1s. And I swear there are like a half dozen people on this site that feel every post needs either a +1 or a -1 from them.

Like seriously someone could say "Hi, welcome to the armory" in an enlist thread and it gets like seven +1s and six -1s. Rate it only if it needs a rating. And quit rating people down because you don't like them whoever you grudge people are you're ruining the rep of good posts

I just -1'd your post twice
umad?

- There already is throttling enabled. You cant mass down vote anything as it restricts you.
- Voting on your own topics will stay.

on 27/2/11Quote by gearvOsh

- There already is throttling enabled. You cant mass down vote anything as it restricts you.
- Voting on your own topics will stay.

What about Deathleech's suggestion of showing the people who +1/-1 a post?

By the way, Happy Birthday Gears, even if I'm late by a day or two.

on 27/2/11Quote by Auto

on 27/2/11Quote by gearvOsh

- There already is throttling enabled. You cant mass down vote anything as it restricts you.
- Voting on your own topics will stay.

What about Deathleech's suggestion of showing the people who +1/-1 a post?

By the way, Happy Birthday Gears, even if I'm late by a day or two.

NightHawk dislikes this suggestion, the problem with it is that people might be afraid to -1 something for fear of their freind getting mad at them, or afraid to +1 something their enemy said, for the same reason

on 28/2/11Quote by Spartan929

NightHawk dislikes this suggestion, the problem with it is that people might be afraid to -1 something for fear of their freind getting mad at them, or afraid to +1 something their enemy said, for the same reason

Well maybe that's a good thing. Maybe people should use the system a little more sparingly and put more thought into their ratings. You are suppose to rate post based on their content, not based on who you like or hate as a person. That defeats the purpose of the system. I know there is a throttle system but it seems extremely lenient. Like you can vote down or up at least 10 posts every half hour.

Right now it seems people +1-/1 EVERYTHING regardless of the content. You are suppose to +1 good posts and -1 bad ones. I see troll posts, or posts just saying something like "hey, good idea!" getting +1 quit often while posts that actually add something to the conversation getting -1. That kind of eliminates the purpose when the good posts get buried and the posts that add nothing stay up.

Take this thread as a great example. Most the people who actually threw in ideas and suggestions now have their posts buried. Meanwhile dracogon has a post that just says "I just -1'd your post twice umad?" and it has +4/-1. That added NOTHING to the conversation and is just an example of bad posts being ranked up.

Plus, on another note, how did he have two votes unless he has an alt account he is just using to rank up/down things? I get the feeling several people have done that (and may even have more than 2 active accounts) which would also be revealed if you could see who liked or disliked things. After all, it's not terribly hard to create alt accounts and use them here. Look at all the banned people who have come back numerous times only to get banned again.

@dleech - whilst your observation regarding what usually happens might be valid, the premisses you have when you are making a claim that the voting is meant to be used in a specific way are invalid.

The system isn't made to promote quality posts as there are no ways of implementing other rules, other than the amount of times a person may vote (also if a person should be able to vote in the first place). People are allowed to vote at their own whimsicality, favouring whatever they think is humouring or worthwhile - or even basing their vote solely on whether or not they like the person having posted.

If you want a system that promotes quality - quality posters & raters (critics) must get an increased weight too their posts and/or votes, a value adjusting their likes/dislikes. Otherwise you mustn't take the +/- as an indicator of anything - let the posts speak for themselves.

Whilst I figure that people generally like the system of like/dislike - I prefer not having it.

on 28/2/11Quote by Unstable

The system isn't made to promote quality posts as there are no ways of implementing other rules, other than the amount of times a person may vote (also if a person should be able to vote in the first place). People are allowed to vote at their own whimsicality, favouring whatever they think is humouring or worthwhile - or even basing their vote solely on whether or not they like the person having posted.

I think it's intended to promote quality posts, but obviously that's not what always happens. As you point out, people often just vote based on their own criteria. Maybe it's a friend, maybe the post was funny? In many cases people are voting something up or down despite it not really adding anything to the conversation. Voting something up or down solely because you like/dislike the person is not what the system is intended for. There is a friend/enemy feature for that.

If you want a system that promotes quality - quality posters & raters (critics) must get an increased weight too their posts and/or votes, a value adjusting their likes/dislikes. Otherwise you mustn't take the +/- as an indicator of anything - let the posts speak for themselves.

That would definitely be the best way to promote quality posts, but that opens up a whole nother bag of issues. Who is and is not worthy of rating, why do some people have a "more important" opinion than others, etc.

I don't think any system would be perfect, but I feel the current system is just too open. Basically the only restrictions are a throttle feature, which I feel is incredibly lenient, and having to buy the post ability which is easy to get. After that you can do whatever you please. I think adding a few extra features could really help round out the rating system. Would it make it perfect? Of course not, but it would be better than it currently is. And don't get me wrong, I really appreciate the work gears puts into this site. Like I said in the rating announcement thread though, I just think a few extra steps could be taken to make the feature work better, or more as intended.

on 28/2/11Quote by Deathleech

on 28/2/11Quote by Spartan929

NightHawk dislikes this suggestion, the problem with it is that people might be afraid to -1 something for fear of their freind getting mad at them, or afraid to +1 something their enemy said, for the same reason

Well maybe that's a good thing. Maybe people should use the system a little more sparingly and put more thought into their ratings. You are suppose to rate post based on their content, not based on who you like or hate as a person. That defeats the purpose of the system. I know there is a throttle system but it seems extremely lenient. Like you can vote down or up at least 10 posts every half hour.

Right now it seems people +1-/1 EVERYTHING regardless of the content. You are suppose to +1 good posts and -1 bad ones. I see troll posts, or posts just saying something like "hey, good idea!" getting +1 quit often while posts that actually add something to the conversation getting -1. That kind of eliminates the purpose when the good posts get buried and the posts that add nothing stay up.

Take this thread as a great example. Most the people who actually threw in ideas and suggestions now have their posts buried. Meanwhile dracogon has a post that just says "I just -1'd your post twice umad?" and it has +4/-1. That added NOTHING to the conversation and is just an example of bad posts being ranked up.

Plus, on another note, how did he have two votes unless he has an alt account he is just using to rank up/down things? I get the feeling several people have done that (and may even have more than 2 active accounts) which would also be revealed if you could see who liked or disliked things. After all, it's not terribly hard to create alt accounts and use them here. Look at all the banned people who have come back numerous times only to get banned again.

While i do think you're righht about way too many people -1ing for no good reason (the topic getting -14 as an example) I don't think you got my point.

I wasn't saying people should +1 something because they're freinds with the poster, but say I'm really good freinds with a guy IRL, he makes a complete troll post, but i don't want to -1 it because i feal like if i do it might hurt our freindship, that would be a problem with showing who +/- something

@the people who are rating everything: Stop feeding the trolls and burrying actual posts pls

No, I got that. Sorry, I was just kind of branching out and talking about other related things.

If that's the case about not wanting to hurt a friends feelings or your relationship with them, I would say just don't rate the post at all. I mean if they are a friend I doubt they are rating your post down now anyways, even though it's anonymous.

on 28/2/11Quote by Deathleech

No, I got that. Sorry, I was just kind of branching out and talking about other related things.

If that's the case about not wanting to hurt a friends feelings or your relationship with them, I would say just don't rate the post at all. I mean if they are a friend I doubt they are rating your post down now anyways, even though it's anonymous.

I agree with this. I don't think it really should be a problem; I'm for the showing-who-rated suggestion.